Lindsay Buziak Murder

JUSTICE FOR LINDSAY BUZIAK

LINDSAY BUZIAK MURDER TIMELINE

Timeline of Lindsay’s murder as per Dateline, Inspector Rob McColl and Detective-Sgt. Chris Horsley.   The bulk of the clues came from Jason Zailo himself.

Jason and Lindsay went to Sauce for a late lunch. Lindsay and Jason paid the bill at Sauce at 4:24 pm. Their server knew Lindsay well.   Jason went directly to SHC arriving at 4:29 pm and Lindsay is believed to have gone home to change her clothes.  CO was standing outside by Jason’s vehicle when Jason left the SHC building.  They left SHC together in Jason’s vehicle at 5:30 pm.

Joe DeSousa left the site at approx. 4:30 pm. Other workers left the area at around 5:00 pm.   2 witnesses saw the suspect couple walk into the cul de sac at approximately 5:30 pm. The witnesses saw Lindsay greeting the couple by the back of her car in the driveway as shown on crimestoppers. There were papers on the trunk of Lindsay’s car. The real estate lockbox was accessed at 5:29 pm.   While driving Jason said to Lindsay“I’ll come meet you and I’ll be 10 – 15 minutes or so” and that’s when Lindsay said to Jason…. “okay I’ll see you in abit I gotta go the Mexicans are here”.  Apparently this was Lindsay’s short hand name for her clients. Jason was seen by video surveillance leaving SHC at 5:30.

 5:38 pm Jason sends Lindsay a text “just a couple of minutes away.” That text was never opened by Lindsay. According to Detective Sgt. Horsley: “the last text Jason said was I’m just a couple of minutes away”. That text was never opened by Lindsay.  Dateline said this was Jason’s final text. (how could this be Jason’s final text when Jason stated on Dateline that when he was parked on Torquay he sent Lindsay a text that said “are you okay” (prior to his 6:05 pm 911 call)……..Jason received no response.  So which text was the last one……..the one at 5:38 pm as per Det-Sgt. Horsley on Dateline OR the text Jason said he sent to Lindsay just prior to his call to 911 at 6:05 pm?  It sounds like Horsley and Dateline support the 5:38 pm text as being the final one.)

5:38 pm to 5:41 pm police believe this is when Lindsay was murdered.

 5:41 pm Lindsay’s blackberry made a phone call out and the SP believe that was the direct result of the attack. It was truly a pocket dial call as her BB was in her pocket.

As per Det-Sgt. Horsley, when Jason and CO drove into the cul de sac at approx. 5:45 pm Jason and CO saw the front door open and the male suspect outside, but only saw the back of him.  Jason parked his vehicle on the opposite side of the road of the house. The rear of the vehicle was facing Torquay and the murder house. They sat there for approx. 10 minutes. Jason then turned around in the cul de sac and goes right onto Torquay. They parked by the house for approx. another 10 minutesJason sent Lindsay a text message “are you okay” and it was not answered.  Both CO and Jason walked up to the front door and found it locked.  Jason called 911 (approx. 6:05 pm).  They both went around to the Torquay side of the house and CO gained entry via the already open patio doors by Jason boosting CO over the patio fence who then opened the front door allowing Jason entry.

When they found Lindsay’s body CO called 911 (6:11 pm) and while on the phone CO could hear sirens coming. The police were there within minutes because they were already enroute after Jason made the first 911 call(6:05 pm).   When police arrived Jason and CO were waving their arms in the upstairs bedroom window. The police went into the home up to the bedroom and immediately took both Jason and CO to the police station separately

The cell phone the couple used to contact Lindsay was purchased late November 2007 at a Vancouver convenience store. The phone was activated late January, 2008 in Vancouver. The phone traveled to the Island 24 hours prior to Lindsay’s murder.

Vancouver is from where the first calls to Lindsay were made, confirmed by hits on cell towers in the city. Police said at least half dozen calls were made to Lindsay and after her murder the cell phone was never used again. They believed the killer(s) knew how to carry out the murder and then cover their tracks.  The expert’s all agreed a significant degree of planning went into this murder. They explored the theory that professionals were hired with specific instructions to express the anger that someone else felt towards Lindsay.  The experts agreed the murder was personal and that somebody close to Lindsay planned it and hired the killer(s).   

Inspector McColl Feb 2, 2011:

“Having had this on our plate (at the time of the broadcast) for more than two years, we had plenty of time to develop theories, look at them closely and think outside of the box,” McColl said, noting that police AGREE with the Dateline investigators’ conclusion that Buziak was an innocent party, and her murder was a TARGETED hit arranged by someone CLOSE to her.  Saanich police have narrowed down the investigation to “three or four” working theories.  McColl stated on Dateline it’s possible one of the people who went into that house was also the MASTERMIND behind Lindsay’s murder.

“It’s not cool to tell on your friends, it’s not cool to rat people out … Many times in a homicide investigation you can get past that because it’s also not cool to kill people,” he said. “There should be some assurance to anyone that is considering speaking to the police, that we’re not really interested in the skeletons in your closet. We have the ability to put that aside and focus in on what we’re really interested in, and that is catching these killers.”

Det-Sgt. Horsley:

“There is nothing in her life — and we’ve conducted an extensive background [check] — that would indicate that she was involved in anything criminal, in anything of a domestic violence relationship, and that is the most perplexing thing.”

“It is also possible Buziak’s killers were under the mistaken impression she had revealed information she shouldn’t have, he said, or perhaps that she was somehow connected to a dangerous person without knowing it.”

“You can be a person who just works and minds their own business in Victoria, yet through a very brief network of friends, you could be absolutely connected to people that are involved in very bad things,” Horsley said.”

Sgt. Dean Jantzen:

“This (killing) was very organized,” said Saanich police spokesman Sgt. Dean Jantzen. “There was a lot of planning and effort and forethought. These are the most complex crimes. And this is the most egregious crime and often they can become long-term and complicated. “There are people in the community who are withholding information. We know there is a bit of cone of silence around this.”

 

 


234 responses to “LINDSAY BUZIAK MURDER TIMELINE

  1. curiouscat68 says:

    I want to start out by saying to Lindsay’s family I’m very sorry for this horrific loss you are suffering. I live in the United States. Somehow I’ve never heard of this murder until this past Saturday. It was on Dateline ID. When I hear stories like this is really gets to me especially when they haven’t been solved. I think I’m in the wrong career. I’m in the medical field and I think I should have been an investigator. I searched for answers but of course the public doesn’t have access to all the evidence. I know there wasn’t much evidence at all but someone someplace knows who and why!!! To Lindsay’s family don’t ever give up! I know a woman who was gruesomely murdered in 1990. There were no suspects. They had some evidence but everything the police checked into fell through. One month ago an announcemt was made that the mysterious murder had been solved after 28 and half years, It was a serial killer who had been dead for 19 and half years BUT this was closure to wanting to know who. No there isn’t justice for us to see in this case but there will be justice in the hereafter. (my belief) He committed suicide and the reason he did is because he thought he was getting ready to be revealed for bad things he had done. This is what he wrote down before shooting himself. Unfortunately her mother did not live to hear her daughter’s murder had been solved. Her father died before she was ever murdered. Her siblings and friends now know and it gives peace to know. This guy didn’t know her. He picked her from seeing her out because she was an outgoing friendly, popular person. I pray Lindsay’s father and I’m not sure if Lindsay’s mother is alive but I hope you both live to hear when this case is solved. I have my theory on what happen but I don’t know of all the evidence. I’ve already shared this story online for others in hopes someone will know something or one who has “loose lips” and knows the truth will read it. It helps when the word is put out!! I will continue to follow any happenings because Lindsay and her family deserve justice and Lindsay deserves to Rest In Peace!!!

    • ANNE says:

      @ CuriousCat…Nice of you to say, but where the family lives is apparently so corrupt they can’t get any justice. It
      s fairly obvious who was involved in Lindsay’s murder, but no real investogation has been done. Any decent agency would have investigated the living f^ck out of the Zailo’s. But that didn’t happen, no matter how much pressure Mr. Buziak has given them. It’s like Mr Buziak needs international pressure on the case, he needs HUGE help, outside
      investigators too.

    • Robin says:

      Curiouscat68
      Please tell us your theory. I am interested to know what you think happened that day.

  2. Andrew J Camfield says:

    The cell phone the couple used to contact Lindsay was purchased late November 2007 at a Vancouver convenience store. The phone was activated late January, 2008 in Vancouver. The phone traveled to the Island 24 hours prior

    Hope I’m hitting points that have already been checked, but no one mentioned them, sooo… Convenience stores have security cameras, anyone checked to see if they can spot the person that bought the phone. On the episode they said the phone was activated over the internet. Every server on the internet logs the IP addresses of everyone that interacts with that server. Find out who is associated with the IP address that activated the phone. Go talk to them. What was the location of the first tower that got pinged by the cell phone? Is it near the store? Is it close to the location of the IP address? What about the other towers it pinged? Can you follow them back to the origination point?

    My daughter ran away when she was 15. I was able to find her and bring her home. I’m sorry you can’t look forward to that.

  3. Chanie says:

    Daddy I’m so sorry!!!!
    The Bf is cold as ice !!
    What a sweetheart she was !!

  4. ELICIOUS says:

    Omgosh!!! I just watched this on tv for like the 3rd time and I swear I have the most unexplainable odd feeling about the boyfriend and his mom! I can’t explain it but I’m sure a few of you get what I’m saying… That “walk” the mom and the deceased girl took the “24” hours before was her telling the mom “it’s over and I’m leaving your Company” Either that was enough or the weird ass acting mom knew the girl knew all of her “business” and it must have been SHADY AS AN OAK TREE and add that to your leaving my boy and the phone was cut on 24 hours before the murder also she had the talk with the mom “24 hours the murder!!!” Their is something DEFINITELY with this mom and son!!!! FOR SURE!!! Let me end with this Shady knows shady and just to be real I’m about as shady as they come. I say this not boasting but trying to become a better person… I so hope this girl gets justice…

  5. chantal says:

    Although there is a friendly relationship between the builder De Sousa, Shirley Zailo and her boyfriend, surprisingly the listing of 1702 de Sousa wasn’t given to Shirley’s group. There is nothing to prove that the clients who called are the one who showed up or even did the killing. The only hint we have that a couple of strangers did show up at the house that day was the story told by the only couple (or one?) of passerby that happen to witness and report crucial details. No one else saw these people. Police say Joe De Sousa was working on the site that late Saturday and that he left around 4:30 while other workers left around 5:00.
    This house was chosen for a reason. It is possible that someone- possibly present on this construction site- left a door open. I think, at least one person was already in the house when Lindsay entered that house and that everything was ready in the bedroom for the killing first and then for the planned escape.
    As soon, as she enters the house, she is grabbed and taken upstairs in the bedroom at knife point. Once Lindsay is trapped in the house, someone grabs her phone and text back Jason: “okay I’ll see you in abit I gotta go the Mexicans are here”. I think this is a signal to Jason. He understands that the killing process is on and that he needs to take his time so he can arrive at the house when everything is over. The ‘Mexican’ part of the text is to remind police that there is Mexicans involved.
    When Jason texts Lindsay again few minutes later at 5:38 “just a couple of minutes away” and the text doesn’t get opened, he knows that Lindsay’s has already been killed and it is safe to arrive at the house and at the same time, it could be a signal for someone to show up at the door, so Jason’s friend can see him and testifies that he saw a stranger on the crime scene, providing again, an alibi. Also, it gives the impression that the killer was ready to leave and that when he sees Jason, he goes back in the house and escapes from the back. When it is over, someone puts Lindsay’s phone in her pocket.
    His call to his brother was also planned and had a purpose. It is an explanation for why he was late (and also an alibi) and he has a witness to testify , Unfortunately, there is no one to report what his brother responded to him.
    I don’t buy that big Jason sat outside with his friend, with the only concern that he didn’t want people to think that he is a sneaky (I don’t remember the exact term he used) and that all of sudden he’s no more concerned by that to the point that he is ready to enter the house and he is so worried that he calls 911. Normally, there is an escalation going on in the brain when someone is concerned. His actions don’t show any sign of escalation. He sat 20 minutes in his car. He doesn’t get out his car to go discretely around the house. Or check for a car or glance around. No, all that time, he is sitting in his car for 20 minutes and all of a sudden, he is super worried and play superman by entering the house before the arrival of the police. Yet, he is not afraid that he or his friend might get harmed. I believe that there is no way, Jason would have wanted to enter the house, let alone unarmed- unless he was 100% sure that it was safe.
    Since it is a small street and that the few houses on the street were all empty, there is a possibility that another house had a door open and that the perpetrators hid their stuff and maybe themselves in it. They would have had plenty of time to change, clean and so on without leaving traces. Someone could have picked them up later. The fact that there were missing board on the fence could very well have been a distraction for the police to make them think they fled, when in reality, they are hidden safely in one of the other houses on the site.

    • interesting take, and very plausible and very well may be what happened. im afraid we’ll never know. the ONLY thing that is going to crack this case is an ‘anonymous tip’. someone out there knows about this killing and thats what its going to take, a person to give even a remote clue. she shouldve had a camera rolling and someone come along with her. but i still think the BF and the mom had something to do with this murder.

  6. Stacy says:

    Is there any link between Detective Horsley and the Zailo’s family? I have a hard time understanding what his deal is, He doesn’t seem to want this crime solved.

    • Robin says:

      Hi Stacy, none of us know what his deal is. His behaviours definitely indicate he does not want Lindsay’s murder solved. The citizens of this country need to let the SPD and the people that they answer to know that we expect arrests and we are not going to drop Lindsay’s unsolved murder. Please feel free to write the SPD or the Attorney General and voice your concerns. Jeff Buziak does a walk for justice every year on the day Lindsay was MURDERED, Feb 2, 2008. If their are no arrests by then we need lots of people to show up in 2019. It will be 11 yrs then with no arrests and we need to speak LOUD and CLEAR because Lindsay was silenced by some sick useless FKS. Please let your friends know about the walk. It’s time Canadians started speaking up about all the BS the authorities dish out. They seem to forget who the FK they work for!

      • ANNE says:

        I have to agree with Robin. It was a crime of hatred. Not drug dealers as much as pure,evil hatred.

        If Lindsay was going to reject Shirley’s precious boy and the dream home Shirley provided for them….,if someone {Shirley} was petty enough she’d see the possible/future break-up as a monumental insult. Instead of what it really was, just the break up of a boyfriend and girlfriend, something that happens all the time, all over the world. In fact I’m sure Shirley broke up with a few guys in her youth.

        BUT, if anyone breaks up / is saying they’re going to break up with HER son….OH HELL NO. That’s my gut feeling.

        And also….Jeff described on video, a really nasty encounter with Shirley during {I think it was} a party. The way Jeff described Shirley, she’s a full blown,massively rude Narcissist and very vehemently thinks she rules the world. If I can find out what that video was called I’ll post it. And if anyone else knows the title please post it OK ? It was very,very interesting.

    • i personally dont know the answer to that, but i think the boyfriend and his friend were in on it.

  7. Jodi says:

    I’m so sorry for your loss, Mr. Buziak.

    The Dateline episode covering your daughter’s murder re-aired last week, and it was very disturbing. Like at least one other person, I found Jason’s mother’s actions on the show EXTREMELY odd, and my sense is that she was involved. It was mentioned that she and Lindsay had gone for a walk and that Lindsay had confided in her that she was afraid of her past long-term boyfriend. I believe that comment was made solely to shine attention on the former boyfriend (and away from her son). The other thing that struck me as extremely odd and unnatural was the way she wiped her eyes toward the end of the episode right after Jason wiped his eyes even though he did not appear to be crying. It was like they had some code…like when he wiped his eyes, she was supposed to as well. It was just unnatural…like, “oh, I’m supposed to wipe my eyes now to make it look like I care…” Her son may have also been involved. He certainly played the part of a cold killer.

    Justice will ultimately prevail.

    • you noticed that fake cry wiping of the eye thing also!!! it wasnt a code but she was mimicking him to show ‘sorrow’. she knows her son did it cause lindsay was going to leave him and he wasnt going to allow that to happen, or maybe some shady businesses practices were happening also that she could expose. but why have his friend there also and he conveniently had some contracts for his own client to sign and lindsay just so happens to be murdered at that time and he happens to be parked right outside the house around the time it happens. i cant believe they havent caught the people that did it. once they catch them the truth will come out.

    • Marie Stapel says:

      I agree. the wiping of the eye was so phoney. why has jasons mom not taken a lie detector test?this is so fishy. I believe jason and his mom are responsible in some way.Why havent the police or detectives turned them inside out. this is a case for Investigation Discoverys Breaking Homicide. Has anyone contacted them????

    • Scott says:

      Maybe I missed this on the dateline show but the killers were referred by a previous client. Did they not know who they referred them? Sorry if this doesn’t make sense. Sorry for your loss.

      • Rebecca says:

        She apparently asked for how they got her personal cell number. The person on the phone gave the name of a previous client who conveniently was out of town and unable to verify prior to the murder. That makes me think that whoever planned this heinous crime had some knowledge of the industry and knew her client list well enough to lie to make her feel comfortable about the call.

        • John Cantelon says:

          I think that the “Mexicans” got LB’s private number from SZ, who gave them a name to use in case L asked how they got her number. If this is the case then obviously SZ planned the murder.

          • Robin says:

            It is obvious that the Remax Lindsay worked at set her up and that would be the Zailo’s who took care of that. Being that SZ was/is the manager where Lindsay worked she would have known all of Lindsay’s real estate dealings at that time. SZ along with her man boys would have also been paying close attention to Lindsay’s dealings. Zailo’s knew ahead of time that these people had liked Lindsay from a previous deal I’d say and then the Zailo’s must have known these people would be away for awhile which would have been why the Zailo’s chose them, obviously Lindsay would ask the “Mexicans” how they got her nbr. The only other scenario would be that the people who were away were in on what was going to be happening Feb 2, 2008 to Lindsay Buziak. The SPD surely know from the way the people would have reacted when asked about giving Lindsay’s cel nbr to the strangers. Many things point back to SZ, late night phone calls looking for a Nikki (oops wrong Nikki-(what kind of idiot criminal does that? How about a criminal who goes around pretending to be a real estate agent/manager but is really a murderer and money launderer. Gee could that be a Wolf is sheep’s clothing or is it cheap clothing!
            Yes of course SZ is GUILTY, obviously!

            • ELICIOUS says:

              Omgosh!!! I just watched this on tv for like the 3rd time and I swear I have the most unexplainable odd feeling about the boyfriend and his mom! I can’t explain it but I’m sure a few of you get what I’m saying… That “walk” the mom and the deceased girl took the “24” hours before was her telling the mom “it’s over and I’m leaving your Company” Either that was enough or the weird ass acting mom knew the girl knew all of her “business” and it must have been SHADY AS AN OAK TREE and add that to your leaving my boy and the phone was cut on 24 hours before the murder also she had the talk with the mom “24 hours the murder!!!” Their is something DEFINITELY with this mom and son!!!! FOR SURE!!! Let me end with this Shady knows shady and just to be real I’m about as shady as they come. I say this not boasting but trying to become a better person… I so hope this girl gets justice…

  8. the boyfriend hired those people to do it. plain and simple.

  9. Why notreview messages,before meeting,even though text mexicans,must of clue in that,no traces,and others not here what happen, was it gang related 2 people entered and left
    Less than 1 hour as police wrote, hispanic like people,wonder if they moved from address and unknown to others,many clues that are not visible why not review again?

  10. V319 says:

    Just saw on Lordanarts channel. First of all your family and daughter deserve justice. May you find justice and soon. It’s been way too long.

    A theory: Who did her phone butt dial? If we remove accident it could have been a request to verify death from the hitman. What if there were housing deals that were money laundering. Lindsay finds out. The boyfriend finds out (he was listening in on her taking to her girlfriend) she’s going to leave him. He’s been dealing steroids and there can be rage that comes with taking them (assuming he did but either way he was highly controlling). Jason did the financial. He had a lot to lose if she told on him. The plan to murder her begins. If you’ve got the builder, Jason and his mother in on money laundering, Once Lindsay leaves him she could tell. Why she didn’t tell her father? She’s afraid for her life and if she tells him he’s a target too.

  11. Laurie says:

    I feel it’s possible Lindsay’s life was taken an hour earlier than shown. The assumed timeline is based on cell phone records, Lindsay’s phone calling out, and surveillance camera at the car shop. A pay as you go phone contacted Lindsay half a dozen times! Alibis we’re formed. All of the Zailos were in contact with each other, in the hour prior to the murder, Jason pressured a partner/ friend to come with him and go out for dinner. Jason , He just ate!! RED FLAG!!! the lock box on the house could have been manipulated or switched out! Lindsay’s friends knew Lindsay’s most personal insights, It appeared Lindsay wasn’t liked by Jason’s Mom, Lindsay vented this to her father, f& friends. Why would she tell Jason’s mom anything personal about her ex? Did they go for a walk? That doesn’t make sense! ANOTHER RED FLAG! Moved suspicion away from herself immediately! I hope the families are re investigated. We went to the house on DeSousa, my bf and I, on Sunday night.
    it was really sad for us to know what happened there, as we were seeing the house! The events portrayed we ran through for our selves. We felt Jason parking in 2 places totaling 20 minutes is a RED FLAG! He most
    Likely acting to ensure his alibi, Jason finds her body! RED FLAG! House belongs to friend of Jason’s mother RED FLAG!

    Our prayers go out to the family and friends and we hope the new investigator digs really deep into the previous hours of the Zailo family.

    • Just A Canadian Citizen says:

      I agree with you Laurie 100%. Once the big house of cards fall I believe you will be right on. Beyond time for Justice for this family.

  12. Marie Stapel says:

    has anyone checked out Shirley????the boyfriends,jason,mother?i found her actions suspicious on the show. she was very stoic for someone who was Lindseys boss and friend. she could have been upset Lindsey was thinking of leaving jason. please check out Shirley. She could have hired those individuals even participated in the crime. she should be looked at. im surprised she wasnt.

    • John Cantelon says:

      Lindsay and Jason apparently had a very late lunch, leaving a restaurant at around 4-430. It is said that Lindsay went home to change her clothes. Questions that come to mind: did anyone see Lindsay, or are there any phone records during this interval between the time she left the restaurant and the presumed time of her death?; has it been verified that she was indeed wearing different clothing when she was savagely murdered?
      I expect the police checked all this out 10 years ago. We’ll never know.

      • Just A Canadian Citizen says:

        Great question! Don’t give up, one day the truth will come out, it always does!!!!!!!!!!!

  13. Wanbli says:

    Please explain the acronyms. What are CO, SHC, SP? They make no earthly sense.

  14. Lou says:

    The extraordinary number of stab wounds with no defensive wounds to me is a big part of this mystery.The number of wounds show rage and vengeance. How do you stab someone that many times without any defensive wounds on your hands and arms?Was Lindsay being held by the Mexicans while Shirley who was hiding in the house she had picked out stabbed her?If someone had found out incriminating information and you wanted them dead you shoot them, you don’t slaughter them.Were there any wounds from the rear that could have prevented her from being able to try and defend herself? The rage indicates to me either someone who had been rejected by a lover (if I can’t have her then no one else will either) or a narcissistic person who thinks ” you don’t leave me, I leave you”. Shirley had bought them a million dollar beachfront t home and brought her into the real estate business and Lindsay was planning to leave. Look at the Tom Capano murder as someone who doesn’t take kindly to someone leaving him. Jason shows up late, sits in front of the house with a friend who can provide testimony to an alibi, doesn’t react when Lindsay doesn’t respond to his text, changes his car location and then finally calls 911 long after the murder is done, shows hardly any emotion or sadness afterwards and run immediately upstairs to the murder room when entering the house.It doesn’t seem to me to be the result of being a snitch or finding out something she shouldn’t(what did they expect would happen if the Zailo’s were hiding something and you buy them a house where they are living together). This seemed very personal.Poor Lindsay got involved in a bad situation( regardless of who did it the Zailo’s were connected with a lot of shady people and people who were involved in the drug culture). If this was connected to drugs with the Zailo’s you think the police would have uncovered something in ten years time.There is so much we don’t know but so many suspicions seem to fall on the Zailos including how the Mexicans got Lindsay’s personal phone number.Would love to know where the police are on this.

    • Justice says:

      Stabbing someone is classified by police as personal. Personal means the person who wanted Lindsay dead was someone in a serious and emotional, personal relationship with her. Lindsay was not personally involved with drug dealers. Shirley, Jason and Ryan were. Shirley said Lindsay told her she was afraid of Matt. I don’t think anyone believes that to be true. That means Shirley lies in a murder investigation. Shirley wants to deflect, for us to believe Matt was the conspirator. Lindsay was not in a relationship with Matt, she was in a very controlling relationship with Shirley and Jason and she wanted out. She knew something she shouldn’t and was eventually going to leave. We know she tried twice for a fact. This is just common relationship issues that happen everyday and sometimes very tragically end in murder. This is not brain surgery. If it is so obvious to us, Horsley knows it too. If the Zailos are not being investigated, there is a police coverup, no doubt. It is time to go after Horsley’s relationship with Shirley. Someone should take a look in his bank account?

      • Robin says:

        Justice
        Well said. All of it. There is no doubt that the perpetrators are the Zailo’s. I have been thinking that Chris Horsley takes in tips on Lindsay’s murder and does nothing at all with them. He may not even register them. He and SZ definitely have some conx. Anyone with a brain can see what has transpired here. Whoever Chris Horsley answers to is not doing their job. It’s bloody frightening. SZ was waiting in the house on Feb 2, 2008 for Lindsay and that couple to arrive. She arrived after construction guys left. She was waiting for them to leave, entered, put on Hazmat suit and waited upstairs. She’s the one with all the RAGE. Once Lindsay was dead the man held open a bag at the crime scene while SZ removed her hazmat clothes, deposited everything including knife in bag. The couple went outside as a sign to let JZ that they were ready to leave. Out the back they went like they intended to do the whole time. How convenient for 3 boards to be removed, easy exit. They went somewhere close by because SZ returned to the crime scene on foot later as she was concerned about JZ. There was a witness who saw her. The Zailo’s had the motive, the means and the connections. There is a link with Chris Horsley there. The Zailo’s launder loads of drug money. Buy real estate with drug money. They kill people who might expose them. This is so obvious.

      • Anne says:

        I completely agree with that. No one attacks a person the way Lindsay was massacred if it’s not personal. And that in itself that really narrows the field. Yes indeed people should be asking then why are the police stalled ? Has Jeff ever been able to bring in an independent investigator or even a profiler ?

        • LKHR says:

          Can someone convince me that SZ wanted to stab LB to death one afternoon rather than just fire her? If she knew LB was about to break it off with her son, why the heck do anything?

  15. Thinking says:

    Does anyone know what SZ was doing on Feb, 2,2008? Does she have an alibi? I’m thinking now it may have been her who murdered Lindsay. She could have easily got a key cut for this house. She had months to arrange that. The developer Jason DeSousa was friends with the fellow she was going out with at the time, Paul Somebody (Berg…..something) interestingly enough he has left Canada and returned to his home country of the Netherlands. Would you blame him for wanting distance between himself and SZ, he probably knows a lot about what really happened, at least he can probably get a good nights sleep being that far away. So SZ waits for all of the workers to leave that day. J deSousa left at 4:30 everyone else would be gone shortly after, SZ enters and there she waits, she has time to put on a hazmat suit, pulls her hair back, covers her hair and shoes. She stabs Lindsay and she makes sure Lindsay knows it is her. I am sure she told Lindsay something about being ungrateful for that fancy ass waterfront home, an agency to work at not to mention being mentored by herself, and also being with her prize possession, Jason. All of these things are what triggers the rage SZ has and she unleashes it that day. She did it. Who else would have that rage. That couple were just there to lure Lindsay into the house. Remember at one point the man was going to come alone and I bet that is because that woman (his wife) wanted no part of it but she was forced into it. SZ made sure of that. SZ could not take the chance that Lindsay would bring someone else with her if it was only the man. Lindsay would be comfortable if it was a couple. In they go. While SZ murdered Lindsay that man was prepared with the empty bag to put the hazmat suit in plus the knife and whatever else, I’m sure booties and a head cover of some sort. While SZ straightened herself out that couple stepped outside to let JZ know everything was going as planned. They intended to exit out the back, SZ knew about the boards being removed. How convenient is that. Out they go out the back and now it is time for boy wonder and his innocent, trustworthy friend to do their part 🎬
    I am not sure where the 3 of them went after that but SZ had a car close by. The couple took off some clothes in the house, off with that blonde wig and colourful dress, put them in a bag. SZ could have taken a change of clothes for them when she entered the house. Yup..this is what I think happened. Or it was that Ziggy guy. The Zailo’s and him were as thick as thieves. He rented a house from SZ and I read somewhere that he said he didn’t know them. (Something to that affect) he was a big time dealer in Victoria so he would have LOTS of money that needed to be laundered and SZ did that for him. She knew all about the drugs. As far as JZ, he’s under Mommy’s spell because he wants the lifestyle. Could you imagine Jason driving the local garbage truck? Oh no he was right into it all. They were taken off guard when Lindsay wanted better for herself. They stood to lose a lot if she told them what she knew. Poor girl. She had no clue what she was getting into with that bunch of dirtbags. She was such a beautiful, nice girl way to much so for the likes of that family. As far as JZ’s part in this he looks so guilty and uncomfortable. All that txting, waiting, moving the vehicle, phoning 911, running up the stairs, invading the crime scene. As far as his friend, he must have be threatened with his families life. He is probably scared of his shadow. I bet there is lots of sleepless nights with this crowd. Fuckers, real fuckers. Rot in hell. I hope SPD find the balls to arrest all of you. Rubbish all of you. Would have been easier picking up rubbish JZ. 🖕🏾🖕🏾🖕🏾

    • Anne says:

      Amazingly good post….I especially admired the last of what you wrote and J. does what he’s told {and seems to have no emotions standing in the way either}. Sounds about right.
      It was more personal than just the idea Lindsay might have known or discovered something illegal going on. If she found out a secret, no reason for such a God-awful violent attack. They’d have likely just assassinated her in a more straightforward way, without all the extra injuries. But with 40 or 40+ wounds, it seems Lindsay somehow really “offended” or bothered someone’s ego. And that person’s a psychopath. And she was thinking of breaking up with Jason…………..

      Has anyone ever delved into S.Z,’s background ? Her past ? Would be interesting if she was ever close to any other past “situations”. Same with J. ?

  16. Lou says:

    The police say what a well planned murder this was but it is contingent on knowing that Lindsay would be in the house alone. If Jason is not connected then his prescience would have prevented the murder and all the planning would have been for naught. Why did he pick up his friend and wind up being late?Why did he go if he wasn’t going to go in? Why didn’t he go in the house if she didn’t respond to his text at the time she was being murdered? So many questions besides his lack of emotion afterwards makes him suspicious. Why was the murder so violent if someone just wanted her dead? You could have shot her or used a ligature to strangle her. One of the outside detectives interviewed on Dateline said he thought the killers just panicked but it it seems to me their was hatred and rage at her to slaughter her like that.What was the motive? If it was drug related surely the police would have made the connection by now. If Lindsay had tipped the police off about drug running they would know that. There is so much we don’t know that the police know it is difficult to try and conclude what happened but there seems to be so many coincidental things and unanswered questions that point toward Jason and his mother. How shaken would you be if you were supposed to be at the house and you’re late because you picked up a friend and she winds up butchered to death. Someone said he was just there to give her some papers after the showing but they had just come from a lunch an hour before and surely he could have given papers to her then. Such a tragedy. Her whole life ahead of her. It does show there is evil in this world.

  17. Jessica Templeman says:

    Jason knows more and the mother had it arranged. I watched it on tv a week ago I believe. I listen to the mother say that Lindsey stated they had a talk on a walk and Lindsey confessed to Jason’s mother that she was terrified of her ex-boyfriend. I believe Lindsey saw something or found out about Jason’s mother dealings. Jason mother worked at the same realtor office. Jason’s mother just bought an expensive home. I believe that Jason’s mother and Jason are drug dealers and Lindsey found out. I believe Lindsey found out Jason and his mother were bad to try to convince Lindsey not to say anything. It just don’t add up. If your girlfriend text you and states these people are giving me the creeps and you wait out side and see two people in the house and don’t break down the door to get to her and you wait. You pull your car around the corner and still wait. You notice on your phone that your text was not being read and minutes before they were. Your daughter tells you she wants out of Jason and her relationship. Your daughter is smart the last person she would pull outside to tell them I am terrified of my ex would be the current boyfriends mother of Jason. I say this because that conversation between Jason’s Mom and Lindsey never happened. Jason’s mom had the weapon and stuff planted at the house. Arranged those Mexican buyers there. Jason knew what was happening and arranged to make sure he had a witness there to cob orate his testimony. The client named Jeff gave out Lindsey personal cell number to these clients and when Lindsey called Jeff to ask if he did he was out of town. The only person who knew the real estate background and Lindsey’s schedule was Jason’s mother. They had this done. Lindsey found out or saw something she was not suppose to see or hear. They had to shut her out. The family has an off shore account. Follow the money from Jason mother. Please follow the back money from Jason and his mother in her real estate dealings.

    • Anne says:

      You have a lot of typos in your comment but your comment is a very good one. Everything you put together should looked at that way –
      I agree, why would Lindsay discuss any feeling about her ex to Jason’s mother !?
      And Jason and his mother are all over this crime.

  18. Lou says:

    On a recent triangle relationship gone wrong on the ID channel where the jilted lover tried to poison the man she was having the affair with and would not commit to her the prosecutor said, “the motive is always with the person who can’t have what they want.”Jason knew she was going to leave him and his behavior of not getting there on time when he knew Lindsay was apprehensive about the people who were coming and then not going in the house right away when he arrived which would have been completely normal is very unusual behavior for a boyfriend who cared about his girlfriend.He was acting more like a lookout than a concerned boyfriend.The number of stab wounds which could have been by order of the person who planned the murder clearly shows this was a murder of passion and revenge by someone who had a rage against Lindsay.Jason sure didn’t show much emotion about her horrific death on the Dateline show.

    • Anne says:

      Excellent points, I agree, a “lookout” sounds more like what Jason was behaving like. Someone else here on the thread pointed out Jason is a realtor, so reason for him not to have accompanied Lindsay that day, instead of sitting outside and too far away to be of help.

  19. Iva says:

    This case is hardly about a boyfriend/girlfriend relationship. Lindsay probably found out something, a big, dangerous secret, something that could put someone in prison and destroy a family. She needed to be silenced. So the plan was put in motion and was well planned. Jason lied about his “perfect” relationship with Lindsay ( I wonder why), and is involved in this case to be viewed as a “victim” to the outsiders, all part of the plan. Nothing in this crime was left to chance, everything was planned, even where Jason is to park his car while waiting for Lindsay. He sits in his car for 15 minutes or so and then texts her “are you OK”, she DOES NOT respond. Was that a signal the job was done, so he can drive up to the front of the house and go ahead with the rest? The killers can now safely exit through the back door and the missing fence boards? Only someone who knew the property would know about those missing fence boards. Jason probably did not know this detail so he helped his friend over the fence. Remember, anyone with access to the house could have gone to the house earlier and left a change of clothes there, then change into clean clothes after the murder and take the bloody clothes with them in a bag. Perhaps these are not hired killers who traveled on a Ferry to town the day before. Perhaps it’s only the phone that traveled there with someone. When Lindsay asked the Mexicans where they got her personal phone number from, they quickly responded with a name of a client who already moved out of the area and could not be verified at that moment. Who would have that type of information? Only someone who knew Lindsay’s past clients. If the woman Mexican had short blond hair, then that was a wig, in reality the woman has longer, dark hair. Faking accent is easy and Lindsay had some doubts about it, could it be that she knew the voice but the fake accent confused her? Clearly the police has an idea who was involved, but cannot prove it! They need to accept the fact that they need help and hire outside help. This was very much an inside job to silence Lindsay who became a huge problem in someone’s life. Investigating the financial and social dealings of people around her could open up some new leads……

    • Anne says:

      I agree the local cops need help and in fact I wonder why they can’t seem to make progress. Seems odd.

    • Jessica Templeman says:

      I agree Jason and his mother. The mother also worked at the same real estate firm. Why would Jasime mother be the only one that claimed that Lindsey pulled her aside and walked with her to state she was terrified of her ex-boyfriend. That conversation never happened. Jason’s mother put that out there thinking it would throw off the light on themselves. They have offshore accounts I have s gut feeling and this was arranged by them Jason and his mother. Follow the money.

  20. Iva Shrivastava says:

    Lindsay was uncomfortable showing the house. Jason talks her into showing it. He does not go with her to make her feel safe. He is actually late! Jason takes a friend with him. Does he want a witness? He parks his car out of the sight. Why? Nothing wrong with waiting out front if he did not want to go in. Then he texts Lindsay “are you OK” ? Why shouldn’t she be OK? If he was concerned, why not go in to check? If I wait for someone outside, my question will be “how long are you going to be”? Not “are you OK” ? Then he sees Lindsay’s shoes inside by the door, which is usually done by agents, and he calls 911? Why? Did he know something? When his friend opened the front door for him, he ran straight upstairs! Wouldn’t one first call the person by name and run through the downstairs first? What puzzles me is this. Jason said he saw a man at the front door, but he went back in after spotting Jason arriving/driving by the house. Presumably the murderers left the house through the back patio doors and left it opened. So why did Jason need to lift/joist, and help his friend OVER the fence to enter the house through the same opened back patio door? How did the murderers leave if they used the same back door? Did they have to climb over the fence? How is it that Jason or his friend did not see the killers leave if they were on foot? These two guys were right there! The sketch of the woman looks more like an Asian woman and the blond hair could be a wig making her look Caucasian. The dress was probably a reversible dress, so turn it inside out in the car, take off the wig and nobody can see the same couple anywhere. I am sure they had a car somewhere in the area. Who are those witnesses who saw the “buyers” arrive? They should be asked again! And Why would Lindsay tell Jason’s mother, out of all people, that she is afraid of her x-boyfriend? Obviously, Jason’s mother is going out of her way pointing her finger away from Jason and at the x-boyfriend. Did Lindsay ever talk about her fears of x-boyfriend to her dad, mom, or any of her close friends? If not, then this is a lie? When Lindsay tried to verify the fact that another of her clients gave her personal phone number to the woman who scheduled this fatal house viewing appointment, she found out that this client moved out of the area and was unreachable. Who was the client? Who else knew that and used this information so Lindsay cannot verify this? Who was the client who moved out of the area? Did the police talk to this party? Whom did this client give Lindsay’s personal phone number as a referral?
    Yesterday I watched Dateline. I am sad the case is not solved yet. I remember the horror of it all those years ago. Obviously this case needs fresh look, fresh eyes, and fresh minds. Nobody should have been cleared as long as the case is not solved.

  21. Tiffany says:

    Also, is there a way to track who visits this website? The planner may have already been on this site, just curious to see what it said and if there were leads.

  22. Tiffany says:

    Had Lindsay received a promotion, or could have made anyone jealous. Did Jason have an ex girlfriend that needed to be looked at?

    • LKHR says:

      Good question! I keep wondering about the new girlfriend of Matt? Did she want LB out of the picture? I’ve gotten no response.

  23. Tiffany says:

    The cell phone was purchased the November before, the past year. Anything memorable happen between Lindsay and any of her Co-workers or friends around that time? I would look even a few months prior to November. Whoever planned this was obviously very patient and careful to have this plan carried through. If Lindsay had a journal or any form of social media, that needs to be looked at. I think back then everyone had myspace instead of facebook. The same strategies to find answers aren’t working. Move, shift, adapt, don’t expect someone to come to you with information. I think there has to be ways to look closer into her friends. Check to see if any of them have a record, start there. If it were my daughter, I wouldn’t give up either. Hope you find closer somehow.

  24. Thinking says:

    How many construction workers were working that day? Joe DeSousa left at 4:30 the others left at 5 pm. Why did JD leave earlier anyway? Did all the others leave or did one stay? Or…Did the murderer sneak into the house after DeSousa left and just hide. JD
    would not lock the door knowing the other guys would exit soon. Or…The door was probably open all day while they were in there working so person had all day to sneak in. Or…did murderer break in at 5:05 after everyone had left. Breaking in would be easy for a criminal mind. Or…construction worker was paid to leave back door unlocked. Remember there were 3 boards missing in the fence. Easy access and easy exit. Or…If they were all gone by 5 pm did SZ have an extra key made somehow. The actual murderer entered the house as soon as construction workers left. She had months to work on getting a key. Did she not go out with a friend of Jason DeSousa? Paul someone who has now left Canada to live in his home country of the Netherlands. Hmm..She could have manipulated her way into getting a key easily. She could have used other means too if she wanted. She was a real estate agent/ ???. My point is maybe the murderer was not that couple. The murderer had time to be ready and used a hazmat suit and foot covers and was waiting. No one saw people leave out the back. It could have easily been 3 people. The murderer put the bloody clothes in a bag that the man held open right at the murder scene. Everything that was used for the crime was put in a heavy plastic bag and away they went intending to use the back door for an exit all along. The couple being outside was a sign to let JZ that the job was almost done so he could play his bit part. The lady in the dress was not necessary but a couple would look more legit. Was it not going to be just the man at one point? I bet the lady did not want to be involved but was forced by man. She is the weak link still. A scared weak link. SZ is so involved here. How dare Lindsay disrespect me and my boys after what we have done for her. Does she think she is better than us? Yup she did because she WAS. Mommy bear protecting baby bear. Sick…money launderers, drug dealers, real estate. Al Bundy could figure this one out.

    • John Cantelon says:

      Was the house under construction? I think not. It looks like the house next to it had some work going on from the pictures available online.
      Where does the information come from that Jason “talked” Lindsay into showing the house? How would anyone posting here know if the Zailos had an offshore account? What about the theory that SZ or someone planted the knife and spare clothes in the house? Wouldn’t this be traceable through the lockbox records if someone had entered that house prior to Lindsay?
      It seems that some people posting here, though well intentioned, are just making things up to suit their theories. What’s my theory? I’m going to have to put some faith in the police doing their jobs and following up on all leads. If it was the mystery couple, and everything does point to them, what was the motive? Who would want Lindsay dead? If it was Jason, and his behaviour at that house does seem strange and suspicious, how could he have stabbed Lindsay 40 times and had no blood on him? What about his companion who supposedly discovered the body with him? Very little has been reported about him. I assume his and Jason’s stories are consistent? For example were they asked separately exactly how Jason boosted the other guy over the fence and how they didn’t notice that boards were missing that they could have just walked through? Where did the missing boards report come from, the police, or has someone just made that up and posted it?
      Where does the the information come from that Lindsay received breast implants the week before, and was stabbed numerous times in the breast? How could this happen when there are no defensive wounds? Was she killed from behind then mutilated?
      I think it will be a miracle if this terrible murder ever gets solved.

  25. Andria says:

    Shoes off upon entry to the home- No DNA obtained from the Mexicans foot sweat?
    Mexican buyers adamantly stressed how badly that they need to buy a home in 2 days. I can tell by the way Lindsay wrote it on her dayplanner (!) that combined with the Mexicans house criteria, there is a clear intention to get Lindsay to the exact location where she was murdered (De Sousa St.) This is another indication that Shirley set Lindsay up. This recipe used her ingriedients but someone else was paid to cook.
    Cell phone pings the Mexicans in route via Ferry at a specific time the day before Lindsay is killed – fingerprints from that ferrys trip tickets ever collected? Other passengers ever interviewed?
    Shirley has shown no true concern for the murder of Lindsay. Shirley lied about a conversation she had with Lindsay during a supposed walk, (stating that Lindsay told her she was afraid of her ex-BF). Shirley is the only one caught lying in the entire investigation.
    Why was her kid late to Lindsay’s scheduled home showing?
    He is a realtor too, why didn’t he just go along with her?
    Lindsay was stabbed something like 40 times, possibly starting from her back side and then to the front of her body…yet there is no defense wounds? I would think flailing your hands and arms would be a natural instinct. In the interest of quick and easy, Why didn’t the killer/s simply grab her by the head and slit her throat? Something’s amiss, hatred is why.
    This isn’t a drug thing. And this isn’t that Lindsay ran into something or overheard something she shouldn’t have…otherwise it would of been a street or at her (Lindsay’s) home hit. As opposed to a strategic set-up at her job and 40 stab wounds.

    • Iva says:

      The cell phone traveled via Ferry the day before, it does not mean the killers traveled with the phone. The phone could have been delivered to the killers by someone who did not do the crime and could not be identified by any witnesses near the crime scene.

    • ANNE says:

      Andria, exactly. I agree with you,the ferry passengers should have been investigated and this whole crime seems to be intentionally UN-investigated. Jeff needs help from outside investigators. Where he lives is too “inbred”, so it’s complex {like some small hick town where everyone knows everyone else} , and God knows what goes on there and how it connects to Lindsay’s case being basically ignored. The authorities there sure aren’t trying too hard to investigate.

      You said Shirley was caught lying. Was she ? Or did people just suspect she was lying about the conversation she supposedly had with Lindsay during that walk ? Or was she clearly caught in some other lie ? I’m really curious – because that should be a huge red flag. Can you please elaborate on that ?

      I too, also think the horrible violence done to Lindsay seems like something a woman would have ordered done, out of hatred as you said. Yes, totally. Exactly, it’s not because Lindsay found out something she shouldn’t have or any of that. That wouldn’t incite so much violence, right, they’d simply have her bumped off in a less horrible way and not in a neighborhood with Shirley’s properties. I’v eeven wondered if the killers disappeared into one of the nearby homes she owned.

      And yes, what a “coincidence” Lindsay was set up in the middle of houses owned by Shirley and her business partner and even the street was named after the business partner.

  26. Justice says:

    Everyone except the SPD thinks the whole story is suspect. I also believe it would be next to impossible for witnesses to see anything in the dark. SPD believes this ridiculous story indicating their low level of sophistication. This is exactly why the murder was planned to take place in Saanich.

    • Iva says:

      My question is, who are these witnesses who could describe the woman’s face they saw in the dark, and her dress but no vehicle or how these people arrived at the house? The entire story is so full of holes it blows my mind !

  27. John says:

    I am curious about how the murders arrived on scene. Is it safe to assume they did not have their own vehicle parked out front? Did they arrive in a taxi or were they dropped off?

    • Anne says:

      Right ? You’d think the way they just walked up to the house, with no vehicle in sight would have spooked Lindsay even more. She was already uncomfortable with the whole situation but had been talked into going to the house anyway.

      • Iva says:

        Exactly my thoughts. Jason talked Lindsay into showing the house at that time, when even the construction workers were gone, and he did not offer (as a realtor himself) to go in with her. How could witnesses come up with the face description of the female suspect if it was dark outside? If the witnesses saw the face that clearly, then they must have seen the vehicle or a spaceship they arrived in, right?

        • Anne says:

          Yes I think Jason is all kinds of weird and highly suspicious.

          Is everyone certain it was dark outside ? What time of year was it ? Maybe was lighter outdoors for longer at whatever time of year, and people actually could see the perpetrators ?

          I agree, if no one saw the vehicle it’s really too bad.

  28. will says:

    Did the police manage to find other locations where the cell phone handshaked. How did the couple get to the island, ferry, plane,,,Any other sources of security video ie: ferries, airport, bus station?? Lots of questions

  29. John Cantelon says:

    This whole scenario would apparently have taken place in the dark – from 5:30 pm onward on Feb 2. The descriptions of the suspects sound made up, the unusually patterned dress, the six foot dark haired man, the suspects exit through the back fence, while one of the two young men waiting outside the house had to boost the other over the fence. Everything in the dark, it all sounds phoney.

    • ANNE says:

      I see your point,it’s interesting. I wonder if the “witnesses” to the odd couple were paid off to say all that ? But still, the more people in on a crime the more likely it will be found out, so I’m not sure if they’d have so many involved unless they were really “tight” or they all had “something to lose” that the killer/s could hold over their heads. Not saying criminals are necessarily “smart” though. To be, such a nasty way of killing Lindsay makes me think a woman was behind it, a woman ordered it.
      Seemed like an inbred neighborhood….Shirley Zailo seemed to own most of the homes there didn’t she ? And the street was named after her business partner ? So much seems to point to her, I can’t outright accuse her, I’m just saying…..

      • Robin says:

        Well I’ll outright accuse SZ. No problem saying she is the one behind the murder of Lindsay. She’s a big time money launderer and has been for a long time. She has lots of people in high places protecting her because they are making lots of money from the drug trade and real estate racket too. Lindsay knew what the Zailo’s did and who was in on it. SZ planned the murder of Lindsay Buziak and possibly even murdered her. The Zailo’s and whoever it is that funds the shitshow know exactly what happened. Let’s just hope the attorney general is doing what he said he would to these F-ups.

        • ANNE says:

          I agree Robin.

          It seems where this all happened is very corrupt and inbred. I mean for God’s sake, the builder who had new houses going up on the street where Lindsay died is a good friend of Shirley’s. Instead of him saying ” it’s horrible what happened to Shirley’s beloved son’s girlfriend”….no,instead he said “the b*tch got what she deserved”. WHERE did he adopt that attitude from ?! It could have been from no one other than Shirley. Why would he have any issues with Lindsay, other than if his pal Shirley hated her ? In fact I think that quote should be used in any future trial if the killers ever are brought to justice. To me it’s a big indication that that man {forgot his name, De Souza ?} knew Shirley had Lindsay killed.

          I’m not up to date on the case, there’s a new attorney general who claims they’ll help ?

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