Lindsay Buziak Murder

JUSTICE FOR LINDSAY BUZIAK

Poll – Who Do You Think Murdered Lindsay Buziak?


552 responses to “Poll – Who Do You Think Murdered Lindsay Buziak?

  1. Anonymous says:

    She was a snitch who witnessed the smuggling of drugs, from what I heard. Her bf arranged it via his associates. And then had it set up that it wouldn’t ever come back to him.

  2. Anonymous says:

    There is a photo of the Beltran family, including Leopoldo and his sister Hermila, on Flickr. Just look up “Leopoldo Rojo Beltran” or “Hermila Rojo Beltran” on Flickr and it should come up.

  3. Dksherlock says:

    It was the boyfriend, using accomplices to kill her while he stayed in his car nearby with his buddy, who may or may not have been in on it. Boyfriend wanted to stay close to the scene while the murder happened and then “find” the body so that he could make sure she was dead before police showed up. His mother was in on it too, helping get things organized beforehand. Notice that so much of the so-called story about lead-up to the murder comes from the boyfriend. Notice how he portrays himself as so caring that he follows her to the appointment – except that he is late, just missing the murder, which of course was intended all along. I am surprised the victim’s father says he doesn’t think the boyfriend was involved, although that may explain why the father’s own investigation doesnt seem to have moved the case forward.
    Boyfriend passing a lie detector test means nothing – if he’s a psychopath he can lie easily. Anyhow, if drug trade is involved here then it’s possible investigators were paid-off quickly and so the case eventually stalled.

    • Robin says:

      Right u r. Why do u think Lindsay’s father does not think BF is involved? The reason Lindsay’s murder remains unsolved is because the SPD are inept losers. They are corrupt. They are covering for someone. They need to be removed completely from this investigation. The Canadian politicians are allowing this to carry on in this pathetic manner.

  4. Sam says:

    I’m hopeful that they’ll ultimately be able to make some arrests and bring those responsible to justice. I don’t believe in retributive justice, which is based on the illusion of free will, but the people responsible for this need to be incarcerated to prevent them from harming other people. The moral justification for this is simple: Everyone else will be better off this way.

  5. Tim Lewis says:

    The sketch of the female suspect looks an awful lot like an unsavory woman named Hermila Rojo Beltran. Coincidence? I think not.

    • NORM MATTER says:

      If you haven’t already google the name Hermila Rojo Beltran you will find a lot of good reading regarding the people involved in Linsay case.

      • Tim Lewis says:

        I found Hermila on Facebook. She has a cruel face…

      • kay says:

        has the possibility that someone may have killed her to get revenge on her father for some reason been thrown out there?

        • Seeking Justice says:

          Yes, but that’s farfetched.

          • Jim says:

            An eye for an eye! However the burner phones and the inside knowledge only her remax office had access to guarantee Shirley , at the minimum knew this was going to happen. Shirley wanted her gone,she knew too much, and someone needed to be set as an example for the Calgary drug bust. She was most likely set up to be sacrificed. Be interesting to know what communication Jason had with Lindsay while she was in Calgary in relation to some people she tried to communicate with while she was there.

        • Robin says:

          Oh C’mon have you ever read anything about Lindsay’s murder. Obviously not if that is what you came up with. Good grief. Sometimes it’s better to say nothing if you can’t make a intelligent comment.

      • Leisha says:

        I just looked at her FB profile and she does look awfully like the sketch, especially on her second public picture. Wow!

  6. Jim says:

    Just to clarify,Desousa wasn’t shirleys boyfriend or ex, it was a friend of her ex, whom apparently Shirley was not fond of. So if Shirley did have a hand on at least the planning end of the murder that could serve as an additional f u to desousa. Two birds one stone💁🏽

  7. Sebastian says:

    The main question is: what was the motive/gain from killing Lindsay? I know her father mentions that it could be related to shady real estate business but Lindsay was still pretty new to the field and I wouldn’t call her a well-established realtor. If we cross out money and we know for a fact that it wasn’t a random hit, that only leaves personal reasons. Anyone that has followed similar investigations knows that usually at the end it’s the closest people that end up going behind bars. As such, I don’t think we need to be looking far and at this point everything is pointing towards the roid-addict boyfriend. Lindsay was surprised how did the couple obtain her personal cell #. It could have been easily provided by Jason himself or his mother who was Lindsay’s boss. The most striking signal is that she wanted to break up with him so something was definitely boiling up between them. Of course, Jason wasn’t the one holding the knife. It was murder for hire and as a form of alibi, he made sure to leave the scene before the crime took place to meet up with a friend that could later confirm his story.

    • Fergal says:

      Killing for personal reasons in a domestic situation is very rarely so intricate and complex. There are always exceptions to every statistical probability, but to think an insecure boyfriend and his mother would go through this enormous, preplanned charade to kill the girlfriend he thought might leave him does stretch the bounds of incredulity. I think there is something deeper here that has not yet been sorted out. I’m not from Canada, but I doubt all Canadian law enforcement are imbeciles. I think that the answer lies elsewhere.

      • Barb T says:

        This may have been mentioned previously , but the clients she met must have given her some kind of name (I know it’s not their real names) but what names did the house clients give her (formally)?

      • Sebastian says:

        @Fergal your comment about the intricate planning involved in the murder actually reinforces my hypothesis. At who’s property did the crime take place? Answer: Shirley’s ex. Who was monitoring the property before/after the murder? Answer: Jason . And most importantly why does Jason constantly change his story?
        However, I do agree that the tensions in their relationship were not the main motive. She even told her father shortly before the murder that she has discovered something that she shouldn’t have. If it was so serious that she could not tell her father, it must have involved other murders with a possible connection to gangs and police cover ups.

      • Barb T says:

        Agree.

      • Fergal OhEarga says:

        Completely agree.

      • Seeking Justice says:

        Well said. I agree. I believe the answers, as well as possible future arrests, are rooted in the cocaine distribution network that made headlines around the time of Lindsay’s death.

        • Seeking Justice says:

          No, I’m just being logical in my analysis of this case.

          • Seeking Justice says:

            Look, I’m not interested in being argumentative or antagonistic. I just want Justice for Lindsay, her family, and for the community.

    • Pam Lynn says:

      Absolutely. Shirley and Jason! No doubt! Go get them. She was trying to break up and the real estate company might have something to hide.

  8. Jon says:

    I believe there was involvement among Desousa, Shirley, and Jason with drug money. I believe that Lindsay discovered this and was threatened. I think Desousa called relatives, friends, or family to kill her. This was a brutal slaying by people used to being this brutal – which means a cartel. It’s likely that Lindsay didn’t know the true extent of this syndicate and the involvement of desousa which is why portuguese accents or this mysterious new client out of the blue didn’t throw a red flag for her completely that she may be set up for a hit.

  9. Myrah says:

    The boyfriend… guilty af.
    Father’s (mother’s) instincts are always right.

  10. E says:

    I think the mother of her boyfriend and the developer of the neighborhood the showing was in. If you look the developer up, he fits the description of the guy wittiness saw. Now, the mom doesn’t really because if you look her up, she’s a brunette, not a blonde. But, she’s wearing a dress similar in style to the one saw by witness. Also, who else would know Lindsay’s personal number? And there’s no trace of the murderers because the developer knew the ins and outs of the neighborhood (obviously).

    • Jon says:

      Wouldn’t it be more likely that Desousa hired some friends or family to kill her. Desousa is a portuguese name and the murderers were very likely portuguese considering the description of their accent as “like spanish” and the witness description of caucasians.

      • Norman L Matter says:

        Corruption and big money. No one is talking so they will need the FBI or a good Cold Case team. This case should have been solved by now.

  11. Ryan says:

    Jason’s ex,realitor Jasmin Parsons.

  12. Ariya says:

    Ex ex ex ex ex ex ex ex

    • Robin says:

      SZ SZ SZ SZ SZ RZ RZ RZ
      Conspirator JZ JZ JZ JZ JZ JZ
      Uber guy TS TS TS TS
      conspirator JDeSousa JD JD JD PB PB
      and the phony couple and a cop from the SPD who leaked valuable information about 7 retiring police to SZ… CH CH CH CH C🐴

  13. Daisy Lorren says:

    Shirley Zialo / Jason Zialo / Sannich police department/ the property owner ….. All of them conspired and made sure this murder happened and remains cold.

    There should be community protests outside the sannich police department. Post comments on their Yelp, social media and google reviews!!

    ReMax should canceled. Community Protest outside their office buildings.
    Post reviews on their social media and Yelp. Lindsey Buziak was an employee and working the day she was murdered, yet They have never contacted the Buziak family for condolences or implemented safety measures for their employees.

  14. Catherine says:

    I believe that Jason and Shirley Zailo ordered the hit. Apparently Shirley Zailo was on the board for the Saanich Police which is why nothing effective has ever happened with this investigation. She knows all the officers. Question to ask: What is her relationship with Constable Horseley? He seems pretty incompetent. How can this guy do effective work as a constable when he has a full-time trucking company and real estate business? Total conflict of interest. Pressure needs to be put on the Chief to remove these thugs from the investigation. Go after Shirley Zailo mommy dearest set this up. Bitch.

  15. Jim says:

    Any predictions on who erased Lindsays computer with all her chat info from Facebook etc? My money is on the police!

  16. Isilda Ormonde says:

    Jason! Her soon to be ex-boyfriend and his mama!

    • Norm Matter says:

      Good guess.

    • TT says:

      ABSOLUTELY! The boyfriend, his mother, and a man very close to them. I don’t care that the bf passed a polygraph, a lot of people pass polys and end up guilty. Some people have no conscience so it’s easy for them to pass one. Far too many ‘coincidences’ in this case that scream the bf and his mom did this! This should not still be sitting unsolved all these years later! Sickening!!!! Bring this poor father some peace already and make some arrests!!!!

      • NORMAN MATTER says:

        If you smoke mariwana before you take the lie detector chances are you will pass.

      • Sunny says:

        I totally agree with you, polygraph tests are most of the time unreliable because everybody’s hearts beats at different paces; it doesn’t always mean if they’re guilty or not. The police really need to put more effort into this, how disappointing. Doesn’t anyone else think it’s weird how Jason tried to ‘hang out’ with his acquaintance (Coen) whom he’s not close with at all, instead of directly going to the house with Lindsay? Yes, go spend some buddy time with your co worker that you’ve never cared about until now, instead of making sure your girlfriend is safe at the open house. It’s almost as if he’s trying to build a strong alibi for his story… but some aspects of it, such as some of the questionable behaviors (parking the car backwards, breaking into the house first without calling the police–even more questionable, being a mama’s boy and calling his mom first before the police??) makes me profoundly believe this man and his mother hired a hit and are in no doubt, guilty. Even worse, the police stated that Jason lacked emotion when they arrived at the scene, but who knows, maybe it was shock and trauma; everybody reacts differently but I have a weird feeling about him… Justice for Lindsay.

  17. Dave says:

    Here’s another thought. The “Mexicans” were very specific about the house and price range. I suspect that this was because the Vailos first canvassed the available home for sale to find the perfect kill house then used those specifications in the original call to Lindsay. I believe she was killed because of what she saw that she wouldn’t tell her father as well as because she was going to leave the son. He clearly sought an alibi.

    • Pat Sichko says:

      What about girlfriend wife of the man she wanted to get back with. The two phone calls before the murder were suspicious. Boyfriend should have never let her go alone.

      • Crystal B says:

        It’s unlikely that it was the girlfriend of her ex. In one of the videos I watched about the case, it was stated that Lindsay and her ex were not in contact at the time of her murder. Unless she knew one of the people who Lindsay told that she wanted her ex back and was planning to break up with her boyfriend and they told her, she had no motive for wanting Lindsay dead. Personally I suspect it was the boyfriend and his mother, him making sure he had an alibi\witness that night and his mother calling Lindsay’s friend disguising her voice is incredibly suspicious.

  18. Tharun kumar says:

    I think her bf only did this….Bcoz Lindsay telling to his bf in my personal number somebody contact me to show house..But her bf was not asking Lindsay how did they know u r personal number…Instead of this her bf telling to Lindsay 1 million dollar its good deal…U do this..U show them house….And she telling all news about to his bf of this deal..And her bf very clevery set a person to finish Lindsay life..And he gone to meet her friend on 5.30 pm for evidence to not caught on police….

  19. Lawrence Radford says:

    I’ve seen this episode on ID a few times and my first gut instinct has always been BOYFRIEND! He deliberately set himself up with an alibi witness. Who would do what he did if he cared about her at all?

  20. Norm L Matter says:

    This is good stuff that I found on YouTube, check it out ( Lindsay Buziak Update 2020 ). A lot of good stuff you may already know and a lot of new stuff. This lady is ready good, total time about 1:12:00 hour long. It looks like drugs and and maybe and Shirley.

  21. Helen says:

    I think she was murder by an upset former client. Through her innocent mistake or inexperience the client lost a dream house or lots of money and decided to get revenge. The killers did not left through the front door so the police should check who saw this house earlier with another realtor to plan the back door escape. The carefully planned where to park their car. This was someone who had to familiarize himself with the house upfront.

  22. Tj says:

    just watched this case on the ID channel. I think her boyfriend, knew something about it. She told him to meet her at the house at 5:30pm because she was concerned about her safety and what does he do? stop by car dealership for a drink then gets there late, then delays entering the home. Anyway, we reap what sow… sooner or later our iniquities will catch up with us…one way or another…said not not.

    • NORM MATTER says:

      I never heard anything about the car the killers arrived in or the getaway car. The dress has to have a maker that some should recognize. Someone has to know someone who has a dress like that or sold a dress like that.

    • Norm L Matter says:

      Checkout on ( YouTube ) (Lindsay Buziak update 2020. ) Older things and a lot of new stuff. Drugs and Shirley.

  23. Emi says:

    Shirley is the reason Lindsey was murdered. I don’t know if Jason is involved or not, being that he has that Norman Bates relationship with his mother, but there is no doubt in my mind that Shirley is the killer. Her money and influence suggests corruption possibly the sale of drugs, and while I admit this is 100% conjecture, it is important to note the burner phone used to call Lindsey from “the Mexicans” was activated the day there was a drug bust around the area. Also, Lindsey’s friend, Nicki, insists Shirley called her in a fake accent at the early hours of the morning one day. Why would Nicki lie about this? Other than to solve the murder of her friend but why would she want to pin it on someone random with no evidence? Lastly, Lindsey’s father, Jeff, says Lindsey says she had seen something she was not supposed to and she would elaborate at a later date. She was not able to elaborate as she was killed before she ever mentioned this again.

    My theory is Shirley hired someone to kill Lindsey, a professional of some sort because maybe Lindsey had caught Shirley caught up in a drug ring, possibly selling or purchasing. Whether Lindsey physically saw someone with Shirley, though this seems unlikely because drug ring workers usually are very careful, or perhaps she had seen something on one of the computers around the office at work, after all they worked in the same office at the time at some point or maybe she listened in to one of Shirley’s phone calls. Another theory I have is that Shirley could have framed Lindsey as an informant possibly having to do with the drug bust around the area at the time to get her killed by the druglords. While I am not sure of the details of any kind, what does seem clear is Shirley causing a professional killer (hitman, druglord, etc.) to kill Lindsey

    • NORM MATTER says:

      Good theory, I’ll have to find it and watch it again Did anyone ever say that the seen the get a way car, or the car that they came to the house in?

      • Bubba says:

        Oddly enuf the neighbour directly behind the murder house terry scheen(sp) swapped his wife’s mini-van the night b4! Its far fetched but he parked it at his driveway or in side street “Torquay”(sp) which is shared w murder house & his. 1 theory is his wife’s mini van was used. How he got involved or asked is beyond anyone’s guess but would suggest professional hit. But gun & weekday day would b professional.
        How did Lyndsay meet jason & ryan? It turns out Matt knew them!? Or did he? Did she meet them thru matt? Matt also knows criminal elements! As does the crime queen & her sons. But moreover sadly Lyndsay knew criminals also. From Calgary. Whether different one’s than matt or not or from all party’s mixed up w hardened criminals. Up to 30 ppl mentioned in this case. Jasmine & Nikki obviously nothing to do w it. Ashley or Michelle Lum are definitely involved Michelle is figured to b the female accomplice. She was rumoured to have backed out of the ploy only to have been threatened herself so she complied. Who paid for Lyndsay’s breast implants thats a curious question also. The shauna rae sleuth pretty damn good on youtube. What’s also interesting is shirley phoned Nikki “accidentally” on her personal phone but also the killers “accidentally” called Lyndsay on her personal phone. Did shirley make a habit of making mistakes. Ziggy was a murderer, Vid Acevedo was in position of murder phone there were 2. Was it paul or joe that said “the bitch had what was coming to her”!?

    • Julia says:

      Emi, I completely agree with you. I just listened to the Morbid podcast episode on this and all I can think about is how guilty Shirley is. I believe Jason was apart of it too.

    • Jim says:

      The gruesomeness of the murder act was to send a message to Lindsays girlfriends who may have been privy to the said information Lindsay knew about. Jason was also inappropriately giving gruesome details about the condition of lindsays body post murder to her girlfriends immediately after the murder,followed by Shirley giving the girlfriends the finger slash under the neck sign, after telling them to keep their mouth’s shut after she insisted on taking them for lunch……..pretty clear what transpired and who was responsible….

    • halarina says:

      I agree with you.

  24. Fred says:

    Drug related hit. The savage nature was meant to send a message.

    • NORM MATTER says:

      As far as I can remember, no one seen the killers car or a get away vehicle of any kind leaving the scene of the crime. Sound a little to planned out for drug people, I heard that if you smoke marijuana before you take a Lie Detector test chances are you will pass.

  25. Carole says:

    Jason and his mom Shirley killed Lindsay. To me, it is obvious.

  26. Josephine Burnette says:

    Please go over Lindsay’s real estate deals. Someone may feel that he/she lost a lot of money or was betrayed. He was mad enough to hire a professional hit. The clue is in how they got to her through her real estate work; they jangled a juicy deal in front of her.

    • Martha says:

      Good theory. Police got tunneled vision with her 2 boyfriends. It’s unlikely to kill someone for braking up without any prior signs of violent tendencies. And it’s not even a “moment of passion” murder. Also accidentally seeing someone with drugs wouldn’t lead straight to an elaborate murder. Drugs are everywhere these days. Unless she accidentally cracked some major drug cartel. Unlikely. Still not drug related style killing.

  27. Maria says:

    I think she was killed by an unhappy former client. One of her clients missed on a house they really wanted and by a real or perceived mistake done by Lindsey, still young and careless looking agent the deal went bad. It could be she was late, forgot something, got distracted and they “lost” the dream house. Some people take it very hard and are prone to revenge. That’s my theory.

  28. Jim says:

    Any phone records of lindsays that could prove Jason was calling her as well as texting her immediately prior to murder

  29. Susan says:

    I feel strongly that mother/boss, Shirley Zailo, made the appointment and murdered Lindsay, in cooperation with her other son, or possibly her tenant. They ‘dressed-up’ so that Lindsay would only recognize them once they were directly in front of her. As it was right around the 1-year review time for Lindsay’s job, Shirley Z made out that this was her ‘fun’ trick to test Lindsay’s abilities in becoming a full-fledged real estate agent. As she led them through the house for this examination, she would have been extremely uncomfortable, but ever-professional and simply unable to refuse 😞

    • Wyatt says:

      Not probable, but then again, anything is possible. Understand that Lindsay was executed long before these alleged “Mexicans” arrived, if they were even there but let’s have some query on that scenario…. maybe it wasn’t Lindsay that pretended to shake their hands (as per witness) maybe it was a conspirator along with the Mexicans who were also conspirators, ya see, Lindsay was deceased long before this time frame was setup, she was lying practically decapitated at approximately 5pm. So while those “Mexicans” and someone posing as Lindsay were being witnessed, it was already a crime scene. All of it was choreographed by skanky mommy dearest and the rejected sons were a pawn in the entire killing, along with Desousa, Lum, skanks boyfriend and a few others. It’s not rocket science but the Stupid Police can’t even solve an obvious killing. Sad eh?

    • E says:

      BINGO!!!! That’s what I think!

  30. jet says:

    Just finished watching it on YouTube true crime daily…im just amazed ..stabbed over 40x and no DNA was found not even a piece of fiber or hair strain…imo these crimes are usually done by someone close or knows them..whomever killed or set this up knoqs Lindsey and she knew them…hope it gets solved i can feel the anger in her father as I have 2 daughters myself….

  31. Jim says:

    It wouldn’t surprise me if this was all staged, and lockbox entry times were false but I’ve seen no podcast/video with or without Jeff stating that they figured the lock box was either opened by someone else other than Lindsay using her code or completely fabricated by sannich police. Any possible evidence that points towards her not being the one who accessed the lock box?

  32. Jim says:

    It wouldn’t surprise me if this was all staged, and lockbox entry times were false but I’ve seen no podcast/video with or without Jeff stating that they figured the lock box was either opened by someone else other than Lindsay using her code or completely fabricated by sannich police. Any possible evidence that points towards her not being the one who accessed the lock box?

  33. SteveC says:

    Just watched the True Crime Daily presentation…may already be answered somewhere, but regarding the burner phone, nothing was mentioned about tracing it back to the point of purchase and seeing if there was any video or records. Hope that this is solved for your peace of mind, sir.

    • I just read in The Capital Daily that some records have been released that there were 2 phones used and that they know the name of the person that had them registered??? wtf Is this all about retrieving the murder weapon. (Sorry I am not up to date on the case) but read this new article today

  34. Jim says:

    Shirley the manager of the remax office that Lindsay was currently working out of….is it possible Shirley or other people may of knew her lockbox pass code, I mean obviously Jason possibly knew, very possible time of entry via lock box was staged. Wonder if there was any evidence Lindsay went home to change after lunch at sauce…..Or did her and Jason head right over to 1702 right from sauce, showing up there just before 5pm.

    • Wyatt says:

      Geez… Jim, you got some reading to catch up. Hint; the lockbox was NEVER accessed by Lindsay. She was long since executed before the time frame stated by the Stupid Police?

      • Svetlana says:

        Does the lockbox show all the times it was ever accessed? With technology, even in 2002, I would think it is kept somewhere in memory?

  35. Lillian says:

    It was “pocket dialed” when Skanky Mommy Dearest was in a panic to replace it into Lindsay’s jacket, she didn’t have a clue (in life or otherwise) that she’d activated the call, hence to “nothing” on the message. It was skanky mommy who was sending all those texts using Lindsay cell, Lindsay was long since deceased, somewhere around 5pm.

    • Norm Matter says:

      So you think she was the older women in the 3 color dress? Another good idea. Did they ever question her?

      • Lillian says:

        No. I’m not convinced those two “Mexicans” even existed. I believe the “witnesses” made that shit up as their participation in Lindsay’s murder…. by pressure, association or threat, who knows, but there has never been any evidence to substantiate their existence, ie: vehicle, arrival, departure? Skanky mommy was already in the house before Lindsay arrived. She was hiding upstairs with her killer son (Ryan.. the rejected boy + huge motive) and when DeSousa was there, he opened the front door and led Lindsay through on a pretence to show the home while he led her to the killing field upstairs. Those texts were done by skanky mommy who pulled it from Lindsay’s hand while Ryan, the killer, stabbed her 40+ times!

        • Norman L Matter says:

          I watch this story whenever it comes up. Did they ever find any DNA besides Lindsay’s? One more question have you ever watched The Genealogy Detective with CeCe Moore?

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        • Charity Iannalfo says:

          The “Mexican ” female that called her was Jason’s mom. She used that same fake accent to call Lindsay’s friend later on.
          Jason and his mother killed her

  36. Jim says:

    Not sure which blackberry she had but how easy were pocket dials made with those models. I think it’s more likely she knew she was in trouble and pulled her phone out in a frenzy and ended up hitting that contact. That voicemail would be some interesting evidence.

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