Lindsay Buziak Murder


Lindsay Buziak Murder

on November 11, 2011



This site has been created for the sole purpose of sharing information to help SOLVE THE HEINOUS MURDER of LINDSAY BUZIAK of Victoria B.C. Canada.  Lindsay Buziak was a beautiful hardworking 24 year old woman who was viciously murdered in the Victoria suburb of Saanich at 1702 De Sousa Place on February 2, 2008.  She was stabbed to death at 5:38 – 5:41 p.m. while performing her duty as a ReMax Camosun Realtor showing a vacant home For Sale to a couple.  Her killers and planners are still free.  Her murder remains unsolved by Saanich Police lead by Constable Chris Horsley.  If you have any information which could lead to the arrest of the people involved in Lindsay’s murder please contact CRIME STOPPERS or Lindsay’s father Jeff Buziak:  There is a reward being offered.

This site is for the exclusive use of serious individuals wanting to make posts and share their information and personal thoughts that pertain to Lindsay’s murder.  We are grateful for your support.  Justice must be imposed on those individuals involved in this heinous act.  As Facebook has closed down discussion boards this is where our quest will continue for the truth and facts pertaining to Lindsay’s mysterious execution style murder.  Information on this site is from personal opinions and cannot be guaranteed or warranted by this site or its administrators in any way.

Thank You,

Justice for Lindsay Supporters

DATELINE NBC     “Unsolved: The Dream House Mystery”



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7,942 responses to “Lindsay Buziak Murder

  1. Mark Roush says:

    Did Lindsay leave her car at the sauce restaurant expecting to go with Jason to SHC detail Shop to drop off an ALLEGED,UNSUBSTANTIATED “CONTRACT” and go on from SHC to the Desousa house ? Did Lindsay Follow Jason over to SHC detail Shop expecting to leave her’s or Jason’s car there so they can ride along together to the Desousa house ? According to Jason, the Police and Dateline,Jason TOLD Police that He and Lindsay had lunch at Sauce, then they split up,Lindsay over to the HOUSE she was going to show and Jason to take a “CONTRACT” to SHC detailing shop before “MEETING” Lindsay at the house. If this Scenario is TRUE,the RUMOR of Lindsay going home to change clothes is discounted. This Scenario would put Lindsay in the Desousa driveway at approximately 4:45 p.m. with Desousa,and the construction workers there. What was said by the Zailo’s to CALM Lindsay enough to go to the Desousa house without Jason ? If there was a “WALK” the day before, it was a Breakup with my SUBSERVIENT son confirmation “WALK” and Shirley’s Murder plot against Lindsay stands. SO did Jason and his Mother CALM Lindsay down by telling her that MOM and the Property developer, Joe Desousa would be there for Her also ???

  2. JusticeforLindsayB says:

    I’m curious about Jason’s involvement with steroids and possible link with the murder. Could it have been someone Jason sold steroids to? Is this what Lindsay was alluding to? Did Lindsay know something about a steroid ring? If we think back to that time, doping with PEDs in cycling was happening. One very prominent Victoria cyclist admitted to taking PEDs. To date, according to my research, he has never stated when he took PEDs or what PEDs he took. Why??? Is there a possible link here? Have the police investigated the steroid angle?

    The people who orchestrated this murder had the intelligence and resources to pull it off successfully. Dead-eyed, no-soul Jason, IMHO, is a moron and was a pawn in this murder. He and his family very likely have info that could solve this crime but are likely scared shitless of sharing their info or speculating, for obvious reasons. They were involved in bad things with bad people and Lindsay tragically lost her life because of it.

    Who did Jason sell steroids to? Did any of them suffer any loss or side effects from taking those steroids? The brutal murder could be a case of roid rage, who knows? For females, a possible side effect of steroids is shrunken breasts. Maybe one of Jason’s steroid buyers suffered shrunken testicles or breasts and targeted Lindsay’s breasts?! They couldn’t target Jason’s balls as the coward doesn’t have any so they targeted Lindsay instead!

  3. JusticeforLindsayB says:

    Hi Jeff, can you provide any info regarding the paperwork (offer) that Jason was allegedly taking care of that prevented him from attending the showing with Lindsay at the same time? Was this Jason’s client or Lindsay’s client?

    I’m very suspicious about this part of the puzzle. Have all parties related to this paperwork been investigated? The likelihood that the offer would need to be dealt with at the exact same time as the showing is highly, highly suspect. Adding to the suspicion is the time of year these two things coincided (a typically slow time of year in real estate), the fact that Lindsay was a relatively inexperienced Realtor so unlikely she would have scheduling conflicts such as these with no flexibility, and the specific clients of the auto shop being suspect. All of this points to inside info (someone in the real estate profession) being in on the planning of the murder. I believe this plan was put in place to ensure Lindsay was alone for the showing and also ensure Jason would arrive shortly after to “discover” the murder (and attract the most suspicion).

    As has been widely speculated, I believe someone in real estate coordinated the murder and used the paperwork decoy as part of their plan. Whatever happened with that offer? Did the deal happen? Who are the parties? Who are the agents?

    I heard some b.s. about Jason bringing the paperwork to Lindsay for her signature?? I know you know this is total nonsense. Not only is her signature not required, she can’t technically even sign as a witness if she’s not present.

    Anyway, I hope this is an important piece of the puzzle that will help solve this horrific murder and bring us all the justice we seek.

  4. Svetlana says:

    Did you notice the mother’s reaction in Dateline, when Jason started sniffling, she had this huge fear come onto her face and was about to jump out of her chair if he blurted out what really happened?

    • ConnectTheDots says:

      You are right. When Jason is pressed about the horror of it all he finally decides he had better show some emotion and he wipes his eye even though I don’t think there was a tear and Shirley looks over as if she is surprised and alarmed, sits up straight and immediately takes his cue and wipes her own tearless eye exactly the same as he did. Sure looks like acting to me.

  5. Robin says:

    Can cops be complicit? You bet they can.
    This may offer a bit of insight into the corruption
    that is going on in Saanich. Didn’t someone make a post recently about not many drug busts by SPD compared to VPD.
    Lindsay’s unsolved murder needs to be moved out of Saanich.

  6. Harry says:

    It must be her bf..
    Why someone should mentioned their victim as bitch!!

  7. Jeff Buziak, father says:

    A Murder is A Murder is a Murder

  8. Mark Roush says:

    An independent Law enforcement agency needs to go to the Saanich police department to View ALL EVIDENCE that was collected to make SURE that NOTHING has mysteriously disappeared, such as Lindsay’s Telephone, something that quite possibly has TOUCH DNA on it as among other items that were collected at the “Scene.” GENETIC GENEALOGY is quite possibly the reason why Jason Zailo refused to give his DNA sample. In 2018, the first public case in California in which a serial rapist and murderer got CAUGHT through GENETIC GENEALOGY .

    • Svetlana says:

      So he refused. Yet Saanich police on youtube videos say he cooperated fully. This is a joke.

    • ConnectTheDots says:

      I agree. Even though it was not in widespread use at that time the general public knew enough to know that you could be linked to your family through DNA and that it could be used to convict in the near future. When you think about it, if Jason and his family had nothing to do with Lindsay’s murder why wouldn’t he give his DNA when asked for it to help the police solve the crime?

      • Svetlana says:

        Reasons for not giving DNA
        -his DNA was elsewhere in the house
        -his mother’s DNA or brother’s DNA was elsewhere in the house or property, implying they were there before or right after the murder
        -their DNA could be linked to other crimes.
        -their DNA was on Lindsay’s hands, phone or shoes or hair or even laptop

        If they get his DNA, they’ll get their man.

        • Rosanne says:

          Just wondering if his lawyer advised against it. Since OJ and the insinuation that Police moved blood and a glove from the murder scene to his house and car.

      • Robin says:

        There is not a doubt in my mind that any detective with 1/2 a brain would have all 3 Zailo’s DNA by now. Somehow…someway. If the SPD haven’t been able to get DNA yet they are useless!!!! Oh right they are useless. Forget I said it.

    • OW says:

      Maybe Jason kept putting his hand in his pocket during the reenactment because he had knife wounds on it.

    • IHeart80s says:

      Motivation, Motivation, Motivation… a DS (Detective Sergeant) who has never solved a murder case will likely not do. If Lindsay’s file were with a group of people who regularly solve murder cases and other crimes, the likelihood that her murder would be solved and an arrest made would increase exponentially.

  9. Mark Roush says:

    Why didn’t Jason wait for the police to arrive when 911 was called at 6:05pm, after all, he and Cohen already wasted 20 minutes sitting and maneuvering outside in Jason’s car, so why didn’t Jason wait a few more minutes for the police to arrive ? There was two reasons why Jason had to get to that upstairs bedroom in a Hurry before the police arrived. (1) The STAGED “crime scene” was clean and Jason had to cover himself with Lindsay’s Blood so that Lindsay’s Blood would drip all over the floor and he also had to step and walk around the room with Lindsay’s Blood on his Shoes to CREATE the ILLUSION that Lindsay was murdered in that upstairs bedroom at 1702 desousa place before the police arrived. (2) Cohen could not SEE the upstairs scene ! This is Why Jason, while the front door was beginning to open, PUSHED the door completely open and RUSHED by Cohen in a HURRY , straight to Lindsay in the upstairs bedroom to CONTAMINATE the STAGED “crime scene.” The upstairs bedroom was chosen by the Murderer and her Conspirator’s according to their diabolical plan’s, they could not LAY Lindsay out on the ground floor because Cohen would have been on Jason’s heels and realized, as he would have realized in the upstairs bedroom, before Jason got to it, that the upstairs scene was CLEAN and STAGED. Lindsay was murdered at the SHC detail Shop by Shirley Zailo and TRANSPORTED to 1702 desousa place !!! The entire scenario and ALL “ACTS” that were PERFORMED at 1702 desousa place was and is an ILLUSION !!!

    • ConnectTheDots says:

      Given the fact that there was plenty of evidence that he had encouraged her to go to this showing despite her vocal concerns with the assurance of his back up and protection plus the fact that despite those assurances he played musical cars for 20 minutes even though he had just taken the time while driving to text that he was within minutes of being there I think he knew via signals that it was now safe to go inside and discover Lindsay and that he had better at that point show some kind of hurry to get to her side and “protect” her like he was professing to want to do.

    • Tupac says:

      I’m starting to believe Lindsay maybe wasn’t actually killed in the house, having being shot & robbed myself after being set up for months I know that on the day it happened 30-45mins before leading up to being shot & robbed I had a very sickening feeling in my gut that I knew something very very bad was gonna happen & it did, I am very lucky to be alive.

      Going thru this I will say I am 100% positive Lindsay would have these same type of gut feelings I had so if she was killed in the house then she either knew her killer/killers & willinging entered the house with them not knowing they were the 1/1s that we’re going to murder her or she was attacked outside the house & brought inside to be killed inside or she was greeted by De Sousa & he led her up stairs to be killed while the killer hid upstairs or she was killed elsewhere & then brought there (staging the murder scene).

      If she actually greeted 2 people outside the house her gut feelings would have 100% been telling her from a minimum at least 4pm on that day that something very very very bad was gonna happen so no way she goes to that house alone willing let alone inside with these 2 random people unless the Zailos somehow convinced her everything would be ok & Jason would be absolutely right beside her to keep her safe & protect her.

      I just don’t get how they could fool the crime scene investigators though & coroner but Mark Roush I’m starting to believe you that she was not killed inside the house from my own personal experience of almost being murdered. The only way Lindsay willing walks upstairs in that house is if she was with someone she knows!! Jason, Ryan or Shirley is the stabbers & they either did it at SHC or the house but it was definitely them, Sannich police need to make arrests already!!!

  10. David says:

    Hello Mr.Jeff, I am in complete awe of you, never mind your sacrifice, I am not a clairvoyant but I can see Lindsay saying Go Daddy Go !!!
    It appears that the Saanich PD has got a case of inheirancy, keeping it all in house and informing new blood of SOP. Now it becomes political, that’s never good but its not beyond legal reform. State period X time goes by, non critical information to be made public in hopes of new leads to satisfy public and community concern of solution, police have exhausted all leads. What is the greater Vic. consensus individually I mean people on the streets ? Voting season public pressure goes a long way, politicians are known to eat their young for gains. Thinking out loud.

    Before I go, one more thing. Lindsay had one thing she couldn’t mention to you, feeling everything in this myriad of weirdness I got a hairball to throw in here; What she saw was her boyfriend making out with his mother. It would take some time to process that, eh. lol

    I hope this would assist in opening the bottle neck you must feel trapped in.
    Love what your doing , Go Daddy Go !!!

  11. ConnectTheDots says:

    Could Lindsay have heard a Maltese accent and mistaken it for some sort of weird, maybe fake sounding Mexican accent?

  12. Saanich Dude says:

    Pretty sure members of the SPD, including former Chief Downie have been getting paid off by members of the H/A & Mafia for years. Victoria is a city with a deep underworld which includes corrupt judges and lawyers.

    Robert Downies retirement being announced on Sep 11th, 2017 45 days after he actually retired was not done by coincidence. Weird how the Saanich Police and Crown consented to more information to be released on the file again on the same date……. Sep 11th, 2020.

    There was a dry cleaning business randomly shut down in Saanich Plaza in summer of 2018, I hear was used by organized crime.

  13. Jeff Buziak, father says:


    Saanich Police Chief Scott Green’s father was a detective with Saanich Police. The officer who accompanied Saanich constable Chris Horsley to Calgary to threaten and intimidate me is the son of a detective who was former head of Lindsay’s murder investigation file. Former Saanich Police Chief Bob Downie’s wife was/is executive assistance to the Mayors of Saanich, Saanich Constable Chris Horsley’s wife is a 911 call operator. This is The Saanich Way.

  14. Robin says:

    I spent a couple hours today reading about what it takes to be an effective Chief of Police in North America.

    Well here it is the #1 skill of the Police Chief.
    * Strong oral and written communication skills

    We, the concerned people of Lindsay Buziak’s unsolved murder have yet to hear publicly from Chief Scott Green, who became Chief of Police in Saanich, B.C. August 1, 2019. That is 1.5 yrs ago or 570 days of nothingness from the Chief. That is incomprehensible to me. How can you get away with that as the Chief of Police? Obviously the chief oversees everything and everyone. A quote I read said a chief will be praised for successes and held responsible for failures. Ssoooo we have four (4) police chief’s in the SPD who have failed Lindsay and her family. WTF is that. That is disgraceful.
    Chief Derek Egan
    Chief Mike Chadwick
    Chief Bob Downie
    Chief Scott Green

    Communication Skills are the Secret to Success for Top Law Enforcement Professionals 

    If this is the case why did February 2 roll around again without a word from the Chief of Police? This is the 13th year Lindsay’s notorious unsolved murder brings no arrests and no words whatsoever from the Chief of Police. This is unacceptable. The people don’t even know what Scott Green’s voice sounds like. Shouldn’t he at least address the public on the anniversary date of Lindsay’s brutal murder with what has changed from year to year. Holy you know what. Where are they getting these chiefs that lack the most needed skill to have success. Boo!! Boo!!! Boo!! Boo!! To the Saanich Police Chiefs since Lindsay was murdered on Feb. 02, 2008.

    Taken from the Internet

    Police Communication Skills Matter More Than Ever: Here’s Why

    Police officers could not serve the public effectively without good communication skills…Police officers can only succeed if they master communication, both social and professional, so that they can be comfortable with the public and get their jobs done.”

    Many of the top officers and professionals in law enforcement have cited effective communication skills as a key ingredient to their success. That’s because the most successful law enforcement leaders understand how to communicate with people from diverse backgrounds under varying and often unpredictable conditions. They use communication to build trust, create transparency and foster an atmosphere of mutual respect and empathy, be it in the office, on the streets or in the courtroom.

    Police chiefs must work with many types of people — politicians, citizens and officers — so they need strong people skills to survive and thrive. These skills come naturally to some police chiefs, while more shy or reserved chiefs must develop them. However they’re acquired, strong people skills determine a police chief’s success. A chief’s day is filled with calls, complaints, criticisms and questions, and an effective chief won’t let emotional, angry or difficult people get in the way of leading the department. In fact, good chiefs have a deep-seated sense of compassion and an understanding of others, both of which serve them well in all kinds of situations.

    No wonder Lindsay’s murder is unsolved… communication is lacking from the top down at the SPD. It infuriates me for Lindsay and her family. The SPD has failed Lindsay and her family and Scott Green is very offensive with his non communication. When will enough be enough? This year will be very telling. It better not be more of the same.

    • Jeff Buziak, father says:


      Saanich Police Chief Scott Green’s father was a detective with Saanich Police. The officer who accompanied Saanich constable Chris Horsley to Calgary to threaten and intimidate me is the son of a detective who was former head of Lindsay’s murder investigation file. Former Saanich Police Chief Bob Downie’s wife was/is executive assistance to the Mayors of Saanich, Saanich Constable Chris Horsley’s wife is a 911 call operator. This is The Saanich Way.

      • Wyatt says:

        Didn’t know about a couple of these.
        That’s all a very sick, dysfunctional string of connections, it is so ripe for corruption. One has to wonder, do ANY of these entities understand the definition of CONFLICT OF INTEREST?

        • Robin says:

          Obviously conflict of interest means NOTHING to people in Victoria. They are all part of the game. Poor Lindsay took the hardest fall. It breaks my heart. We need to keep pushing for JUSTICE.

      • ConnectTheDots says:

        Interesting that the son of the former head of Lindsay’s murder investigation would accompany Horsley on what must have been an off the record trip to attempt to intimidate you into silence. You just can’t make this stuff up. Crazy and incriminating.

    • Jeff Buziak, father says:

      Here is the latest of continued “Saanich Way” of communication from my appointed contact at Saanich police. This is how contact has been with this individual for the past couple years in various forms of the same thing. He ignored me for 5 days until I emailed him then he responded with this:

      “I hope you are well. I understand it has been very cold in Alberta lately. I read your last email that you sent out yesterday. I wanted to touch base see if you wanted to talk about something. Did you want to talk today? Or this week? Email? I checked my phone today which has been replaced lately. Your name was not entered in this one. If I missed your call, I apologize. I do miss calls from time to time if I’m busy. I have re-entered your name into my new phone. I also hope you can leave a message if able.

      I also wanted to acknowledge your comment about our meeting. I want you to be comfortable communicating with me and if you felt uncomfortable in any way we can talk about that.”

      His job is to be my contact and work on Lindsay’s murder! I’ve talked about poor communication to this View Royal Councillor, er I mean, part time Saanich police officer, for probably two years now and no change to unacceptable communication. Explanations, excuses, blaming then sweetness. I’ve had enough. This is clearly using gaslighting tactics. I’ve been in business over 40 years communicating with the public and other business professionals and have not seen or experienced anything like the abhorrent, inappropriate form of communication Saanich police think is acceptable and normal. They do what suits their needs and could care less about others or the savage murder of a wonderful young woman in Saanich while at work.

  15. J says:

    Listening to this story it sounds like it was a hit meant for the other broker – the one that worked in the same office, had connections to the drug distribution network, and quit her job the day after the murder.

    • Svetlana says:

      The person you are talking about is not a broker or realtor but a receptionist and Lindsay’s friend. The hit knew exactly who they were looking for and it was not the receptionist. They knew Lindsay’s name, her personal cell number, and her plans for that time and that she’d fall for it.

      Someone very close to her planned it and I sense a woman planning this. How would the murderers even know that she wouldn’t ask for identification and proof of salary? They knew she wouldn’t ask! Even if they did, she was somehow coerced by her boyfriend to go because he’ll be there. Who knows, maybe even Shirley and Ryan said they’ll be there.

      How is it that Shirley showed up by walking? Your son’s girlfriend was murdered and you decide to walk from home to the murder house many blocks away? Was that to either keep her car away from police eyes and someone was cleaning it, or maybe she was somewhere in the vicinity or if her heart was already pounding, it was to show that it came from the long walk? Police should check this out and hopefully they can still trace people’s cars. Did the police take pictures of all the people close to Lindsay?

    • Back says:

      This information needs to be looked at closely.

  16. Svetlana says:

    The FBI agents don’t have to go very far from Remax Camosun to find their suspects. They were so close to Lindsay that they knew the actual listing agents would not show up unexpectedly on that Saturday. If it was someone outside of that office, how on earth would they know that other people wouldn’t show up?

    Some people from that office are involved. Guaranteed. This is why Dateline investigators all agree it was very personal and someone very close to Lindsay.

    • Svetlana says:

      To add, I include JZ as part of that office because from what I gather he was buying Lindsay coffee at work so he probably had business there.

    • ConnectTheDots says:

      I agree. That office had to be involved somehow. Close and personal. It would be very interesting to know what the listing agents know. There must have been at least something that was odd or more and I wouldn’t be surprised if they have an idea of who was involved.

      • Robin says:

        The listing agents definitely have an instinct of some kind as to what happened. They would totally numb women to not have some idea as to what and who. God forbid their award 🥇 winning hands should get dirtied with such things as the vicious murder of a colleague. What ya thinking Laurie Lidstone and Nancy Di Castri. Time we heard from you award winning agents don’t ya think?

        • Svetlana says:

          I hope the FBI interrogate them. They were working there apparently for 8 years before Lindsay arrived, and they are still there according to the website. Why are they a team? I don’t know much about real estate but this is the first time I see two people on house signs.

          If what Lindsay saw was something at that real estate office, then it’s something to do with some illegal doings, because she couldn’t say it to her father as it might cause some danger to her, and could involve the owner or even other realtors. It’s also possible other agents knew as well. With Lindsay leaving and knowing about whatever she saw, and perhaps she mentioned it in an argument with Jason which would’ve looked like a threat, he told his mother. Maybe they planned on doing something to Lindsay on that ski trip.

        • Charlie chan says:

          Why do you think they would know anything?

    • see closely says:

      The people in work(real estate business) are hardly the only ones that may be suspects in this murder.If you believe that,then you are limiting the number of suspects.Not a good idea!

    • Darwin says:

      Jason Z. Is not an ugly guy. In fact he’s attractive, better looking than Ryan his brother and Matt, Lindsay’s former boyfriend. Jason and Ryan Zailo look suspiciously like former Reality TV star Paulo Rodriguez from Manhunt: The Search For America’s Most Gorgeous Male Model a 2004 Reality TV series which was created by Tyra Banks and aired on BRAVO. The real Paulo’s photo placed between Jason and Ryan Zailo is chilling. So it would not surprise me if some other woman from Jason’s set of groupies was so obsessed with him that she killed Lindsay simply to remove Lindsay from Jason. The murderess would have thought much like Jason’s mother that she “owned him”. It may have been one of Jason’s employers, supervisor, female mentor or steroid buyer. Could also have been someone who was obsessed with Jason from high school or college. Does anyone know who and where Jason’s father is? How do we know he didn’t murder Lindsay?!

    • see closely says:

      Silly!Why FBI?SPD had the same kind information.Do you really think that SPD did omit those kind of information at the start of their investigation?In the time that even Jeff was believing in their type of investigation?It either did not lead anywhere, or AG prosecution did not accept it as sufficient enough to charge anybody.

  17. clifford danco says:

    A while ago it was revealed the police know who owns the burner phone, which is a big deal. I believe the reason there’s been a lack of action on that is because the person is Leopoldo Rojo Beltran, currently living in California.

    If there’s anybody who can get this done its the FBI.

  18. Robin says:

    In 2020 our theme was clear vision and personal responsibility. This was the year that we own it and stop blaming everyone else for our choices. We compared the year 2020 with the term 20/20 vision and said this is a new era where we begin to see things more clearly.

    For me I began to see the Lindsey Buziak murder much more clearly. It became clear that Chris Horsley’s attack on Jeff Buziak put him in a conflict of interest. That became crystal clear to me.

    From gangstersout blog
    A total conflict of interest, Chris Horsley and his cop buddy from Saanich tried to bully Jeff by travelling to Calgary on the tax payers dime and threaten to shut Lindsay’s blog down. Funny we have this thing called “Freedom of expression” here in Canada so the intimidation tactic didn’t work. Waste of taxpayer money.

  19. Gayu says:

    Sir this might sound crazy but did u ever tried ghost box and find out I dont know whether this really helps or not but just a suggestions if u believe

    • Wyatt says:

      WTF is that? And I would appreciate full English written sentences to comprehend what you are writing..

      • LanguageWhisperer says:

        Wyatt…I believe Gayu was asking if there has been a spiritual reading. He might consider a crystal ball to be a ghost box. He did not read the posts on this website saying that Jeff did end up talking to spiritual advisors. When Gayu is using “u” or not full English, he’s talking in Millenial language. Everything is shortened as to fit leet speak, Twitter and basic texting. Remember 143 is code for I love you, and there are many other texting codes related to drugs, human trafficking and other horrible crimes including murder. Having read about Jason Zailo having and using a pager in 2008 to communicate with people is out there because he would have been on cellphone /BlackBerry at that time. Same as Lindsay unless the pager was a hold over from the decade before. As in Jason had the pager since middle school.

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